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New HP ENVY Phoenix h9 Rises

by GizmoGladstone ‎09-19-2012 09:10 PM - edited ‎09-28-2012 10:15 AM

Hey there, my name is Darren and I’m a gamer. I have a Phoenix. I use it. A lot. And now, with the next rev of this beast – now called the HP ENVY Phoenix h9 – we’re getting a few of the tweaks that I’ve been hoping to see. Namely, the interior gets a tool-less facelift so that you can dig into the guts freely without having to go scramble for your screwdriver as often. The wiring is bundled and routed through the case so that you don’t have to jimmy in a new graphics card. The hard drives slot in and you can unplug / undock three drives as needed. 
 
For sake of comparison, let’s look at an original phoenix case layout and a quick shot of a new one.
 
Phoenix_h9_internal.jpg
 
Note how with the original unit (the one with the red circles) the hard drive cage is facing inward and the cables are running over the graphics card.
 
Phoenix_h9_internal_2.jpg
 
With the newer case in the ENVY Phoenix h9, check out where those orange circles are. The drive cage in the lower left is EASILY accessible and the wiring throughout the case is under control, cable-wise. [Insert the golf clap here!]
 
Yep, you’re also going to get access to the latest, top-of-the-line third-generation Intel processors. The h9-1320t model comes spec'd with an Intel Core i7-3770 processor with 10GB of memory. You’ll have a choice of NVIDIA or AMD high-end, discrete graphics performance. Want to go for more performance-enhancing options such as ExpressCache, solid state drives (SSDs) and liquid cooling….rock it proudly. You still get the subtle-but-cool armored design with tinges of red lighting from inside the case.
 
OF COURSE, this desktop is capable of doing a TON more than just games. Movies and music more your speed? No problem, it’s armed with beats audio jacks on the top panel of the Phoenix and there’s a full retinue of ports all around the Phoenix: On the top (two USB 3.0), in the drop-down front panel (four USB 2.0 and flash memory card slots), and in back (two more USB 3.0, four more USB 2.0 and an optical audio port).
 
Oh, and get this – the redone ENVY Phoenix h9 starts at $899 when it hits stores for the holidays. Keep in mind that just at the beginning of this year the first Phoenix hit the scene with a starting price just north of $1,100. Now, starting at over $200 less, you’re getting a potentially better rig. Just think of this as a quick head’s up until I get a chance to really dig into the guts and see how this guy works in the field. Y’know, with games….and….other activities.
 
What do you think of the new design scheme for inside the Phoenix case?
 
 

Comments
by hafdasa on ‎09-21-2012 05:43 AM

For me, this is the smallest, cheapest, lightweight, branded GAMING desktop I've ever seen yet. Also, the new cables and the metal bar look sexier.

 

What kind of cooling fan is that? Will these h9 versions come available with optional DDR3-1600 MHz SDRAMs?

by hafdasa on ‎09-21-2012 06:02 AM

Smallest because of the ratio(volume) of the tower's dimensions over the ample space inside, though the casing has a roof thickness of like 2 inches.

by FattysGoneWild on ‎09-28-2012 12:38 AM

Hmm. I am on the fence with it. Some what of a placebo effect since the sleaving makes it look much nicer. While no more long metal bar. Its still a big piece of metal with a hook to stuff sleeved wires in. The drive cage I do like and is much improved. I also would like to see HP offer a gpu mid card. They always only offer low end and high end. Never a in between such as a GTX 660Ti for example. If my Phoenix was not purchased this year. 2nd gen i7 2600. I would certainly pick up this new model. Still love mine. 

by GizmoGladstone on ‎09-28-2012 01:34 AM

Well, I don't think that this is meant as a replacement for someone that just bought a Phoenix....BUT, it does show that we're listening to what people are saying. Like you're pointing out, the changes are tweaks (hard drive cage being a big one for me) and the cable controls seems  a lot more managable. I haven't had a TON of time with it yet, but I will let you know what I think when I do.

by FattysGoneWild ‎09-28-2012 01:05 PM - edited ‎09-28-2012 01:08 PM

You know another cool option if HP added it. A color option for the led theme. I would have like to picked blue instead of the default red. Maybe offer red, blue, green, white etc. HP is getting on the right track. Still need some tweaks. Better pricing which seems to be happening with next release. Mid range gpu. And if HP is going to offer processors that oc like the K series for example. HP offers the 3770K. Open up the bios and allow some oc. Or at the very least. Offer it as a pay option and have the factory do it. I would also like to see much better marketing and advertising for the system. Its to nice of a system to not have more attention. For extreme gaming. I would also like to see HP offer a sli option.

 

If HP can keep the momentum and keep improving the system. I would love to make my next purchase another Phoenix when Intel Haswell hits the market next year.

by GizmoGladstone on ‎09-28-2012 01:43 PM

Thanks for that!

 

Yeah, I gotta say I was pretty impressed with Haswell when I saw it in action at IDF. As for the BIOS tweaking have you checked out Intel's XTU at all?

 

Check it: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-boards-software-ext...

by FattysGoneWild on ‎09-28-2012 02:43 PM

Hold the phone! I have not seen or even heard of the Intel XTU. Would this work with my mobo and allow me to oc my processor? I heard it is best to oc through bios and not software. How exactly does this work? Does it also save the oc?

by FattysGoneWild on ‎09-28-2012 03:29 PM

I got to curious and installed it right away. No tweaking allowed as everything is greyed out oc option wise. Oh well.

by bhamkingfisher on ‎11-18-2012 10:16 AM

LED Lights question -- is there an on/off switch?  If not, is it easy to disconnect them inside?

 

Thanks for posting the before & after of the case interior.  Very helpful -- I was really wanting to see that.  Very seriously considering this machine.

by GizmoGladstone on ‎11-19-2012 07:21 AM

Happy to help, bhamkingfisher!

 

The only internal lights on the new Phoenix are inside the rear-mounted fan. Its pretty subtle, but I don't recall seeing any off switches on either the fan itself or the mobo. Didn't get a chance to check the bios, but if I hear of something else, I'll post it here.

 

-D

by bhamkingfisher ‎12-11-2012 09:18 AM - edited ‎12-11-2012 09:19 AM

*** NEW H9 PHOENIXES ARE NOT CONFIGURED THIS WAY -- DISREGARD PICS ABOVE ***

 

HP is NOT shipping H9 Phoenix's with the wrapped cabling and toolless drive cage above, as they have indicated throughout their advertising and on the press release dated September 20th.

 

They are sending the old rat's nest wiring and the non-tool-less disk cage.

 

The first machine I ordered came with these old components.  I immediately sent it back without even turning it on.

 

The replacement machine came today, and it still has the old rat's nest wiring and drive cage.

 

Not sure what is going on here, but if this is a factor in your decision, do not go by what the pictures above show or what they are advertising in their press releases.  

 

I am not looking forward to another call to HP returns.  Sigh.

by GizmoGladstone ‎12-11-2012 09:24 AM - edited ‎12-11-2012 01:01 PM

Hey, bhamkingfisher:

 

I'm looking into this and I've been shaking a bunch of trees for you. Do me a favor: contact me at gladstone -at- hp dot com with your contact info and I will pass it along to the right people to get this resolved, all right?

by bhamkingfisher on ‎12-11-2012 03:21 PM

Thanks GizmoGladstone.  I just sent you an email.  I'm sure this is something that can be resolved by someone armed with more information than the sales & customer service reps have at hand.  Thanks!

 

by Helzy January

I wonder if this was resolved and we know what models have the sleeving and cable management? I bought an H9-1386 (H3Y50AA#ABL) yesterday and am expecting delivery today. Then saw this article. Was there a resolution?

 

THank you!

by GizmoGladstone January

As far as I know, it's resolved. I hooked up bhamkingfisher up with the right people in support....hey, let me know if you're all set now!

 

-Darren

by bhamkingfisher January

I have been waiting until final resolution to post my update.  

 

I received the third unit yesterday, and it still had the old cabling (but it did have the toolless drive bay this time).

 

The contact at HP I am working with had previously gotten visual confirmation from the factory that the new components were shipping, so now we are trying to determine why this unit again shipped with the old cabling.  

 

Will post again once everything is settled.

by hamburg733 2 weeks ago

cheapest? i paid 1600 euros for this machine. i had a little "incident" with my homebuilt asus. and decided to buy a store bought machine. i like it. but the drive cage is ridicuous to remove. i did add better ram. but its still 1600mhz. so dont know what difference that makes. I HATE the fact that you are forced to use WIndows 8. I was stupid and immediately wiped out my HP install. Only too see there are no windows 7 drivers. I DID manage to get WIndows 2008 r2 running nicely on it. Just no drivers for usb 3.0. But not I am back to 8. If there is a way to slightly overclock this via software. That would be awesome. But ive never heard of that.

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