HP's Slate Device Runs The Complete Internet -- Including Flash!

We gave everyone a peek at HP’s slate device during CES 2010 and people got excited. Last month, we let you see a little more about what our slate can do – and you guys lit up the Internet with comments.
 
Well, we’re listening – and want to give you a little more insight. So, here’s what I can tell you for now without getting into too much trouble with my boss:

 

With this slate product, you’re getting a full Web browsing experience in the palm of your hand. No watered-down Internet, no sacrifices. We just posted a quick video showing some more of what that’s like as well as how the slate device will work as an eBook reader. Enjoy the short clip (and the techno soundtrack).

 

 

 

But that brings us to something bati555 and others asked on Youtube: “Does this thing have flash support?”
 
A big bonus for the slate product is that, being based off Windows 7, it offers full Adobe support.
 

To demonstrate that, here’s a second video with Adobe’s Alan Tam. He shows Adobe Air and Flash in action on the device: Video playback from MTV.com; A Spongebob Squarepants game (most casual games on the Web run in Flash); photo editing at Photoshop.com and reading the digital version of the New York Times.

 

 

 

pcfix411 asked us to “keep these coming into YouTube.” Ok, we will! In the mean time, sign up for updates on hp.com/slate. Or go on Twitter, YouTube, and our forums. Let us know what you think and what you’d do if you had a slate.
 
Oh, and our friends at the FCC want us to let you know that this device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission.  This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.

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Comments
by PhotoOtaku on ‎03-08-2010 11:00 AM

Boo to the FCC, we wait patiently (...kind of).

by Leafworth on ‎03-08-2010 04:35 PM

Questions/Concerns:

 

1. Sill looks cursor based. (disappointed) Will it support simple to complex multi-touch gestures? Two fingers to page up/down, three fingers to open a cascading window of open applications, or pinch to shrink/zoom? Is that pop up keyboard displayed during the portion where he's using the crossword puzzle exclusive to the site/application or is that the system keyboard? 

 

2. Why have you showcased what looks like regular ol' Windows 7 being able to run Flash? Was there some doubt that it would be able to, in browser? 

 

3. Yuppy scum drinking coffee, MTV (reality TV no less), Sponge Bob, awful Techno, and crossword puzzles... someone in the Advertising department lost their job. Right? Points for it still being better than any advertising put out by Sony in the last 10 years. 

 

Kudos:

 

1. The manufacture of the device looks great. The fact that it lays flat on the table without a special case to even it out is a plus. I really like the display and the look of it. I love HP Monitors for this reason. 

 

2. Playing nice with Adobe. 

 

3. For using what looked like actual fingers, using the actual device, for regular stuff without edit or apology. 

by jaykuhn on ‎03-08-2010 09:44 PM

This looks great.  The most solid discussion and portrayal of the device yet.  The first video the screen movements are obviously speed up, way noticeable and will make many people weary.  Alan Tam's video it looks natural.  I hope it isn't edited.  I will really loose faith in HP if their faking that.

 

This is what I want!!  

 

1.  The form factor is perfect. The pad looks really awkward in every picture I have seen of someone holding it.

 

2.  Yes flash is important.  How does apple get by saying "their target users don't care".  Their target users are too naive to know.  I don't care if the user is 80 year old grandma. She doesn't know what "flash" means. But when she goes to half her websites and they don't work she WILL CARE.

 

3.  The pad is all about "passive consumption".   I want to create as well.   Why does apple think a stylus is bad?   A good touch interface is great and the pad will likely have the best.  But that does not mean that you might want to have a stylus at times.  I've been craving a tablet PC for years because I like to sketch and draw things.  I have a wacom tablet for that at my desk.  I play with tablets and their great, just two bulky.  THIS I WANT.

 

4.  its just like apple to be a purist about this to no ones benefit.  They ruin the absolute best lap top hardware (Mac Power Book) by insisting that it has only one button.  It is a real limitation.  They are doing the same thing by declaring stylus war.   

 

5. HP has nailed the form factor.  I suspect they have their work cut out for them on price and battery life.   This is not going to grab me if it's priced like a high end note book.  They are going to have to be darn close to the pad. People are looking at this like a notebook.

by ryanhegs on ‎03-08-2010 09:49 PM

I would be extremely excited about this device..Looks like it could do a lot that the Ipad doesn't. The reason I'm not excited...I purchased an HP TX2000 tablet about a 1.5-2 years ago and was super pumped about it...until it started having some major problems right around the one-year mark. I did A LOT of research and found that hundres (probably thousands) of people were having the same problems. Overheating, the built-in wi-fi suddenly failing (never to be seen again), the cursor jumping to the bottom corner of the screen sporadically (and opening the calendar...which is annoying when you are trying to give a business presentation), the list goes on (the fingerprint scanner and the trackpad scroller died as well). I dealt with customer service a couple times and became extremely frustrated as they were obviously reading through a script and didn't really have a clue about the products, the issues people are having, or how to fix them. My high regard for HP quickly plummeted through this experience. It was definitely the worst $1,000+ purchase I've made. Why would I expect this slate device to be any different?  It looks like HP has a lot of attractive products, but unfortunately it seems like they are skimping on the device components and design....and from what I can tell, in the case of their line of tablets, have failed to acknowledge the problems that so many people are complaining about. Hopefully I'm wrong...but I can't afford to take that kind of risk again.

by rscolove2k10 on ‎03-08-2010 11:28 PM

 

I think the HP Slate looks very promising and assuming it has good battery life, simplicity of design and doesn't heat up like a hot pad then it looks like a winner for its Windows category.  My own experience with Flash is that it's a long way from being a sleek engine (when running on my fastest hardware, it's taking up 30 to 40 percent of the CPU cycles (even dual core hardware).   For me personally, I consider Java a far more valuable benchmark for running the entire web.  Many of my clients in education, on campuses, in research labs and even among enterprise mobile teams; they all use Java on a daily basis.    If the Slate can run the latest JRE,  it will be one of my first non-Apple purchases.   As for Windows 7, it's not Mac or iPhone.   But it's vastly better than Vista in terms of managing the user environment in a more forgiving way.  

 

One other idea that I would like to see HP explore further is extending the UI ideas they presented with the HP DreamScreen.  I like the product's functionality but with a touch interface and a few more services (RSS feeds, web etc); it could be a real winner for the truly casual user at home.  It's very well done.    Not sure which team at HP designed it but it's impressive.  

 

As for Apple's iPad, it's a beautiful iTunes platform as envisioned; nothing more and nothing less.   With or without Flash-based video, I believe it will be a runaway success in the Apple marketplace and will only help the entire personal computing industry advance the touch/gesture UI in same way that the iPhone helped to  advance the smart phone market.    

 

My only advice to HP is to not pollute their brand with too many variations and choices in slates.   Keep it simple.  Build loyalty and then evolve the feature set.   

 

 

by GetRealGetFlash on ‎03-09-2010 07:47 AM

Leafworth, It seems you are missing a signficant point. Aside from many of the fringe benefits of pinch zoom, multi-finger touch navigation, by far  the most significant enhancement necessary to accelerate adoption for slate/pad/netbook devices and smartphone is Flash.  Not only is Flash necessary for many of the new TV players, it is also where 90% or more of new heatlh, wellness education, and academic education products are developed for web deployment.   Without it, users will not be able to use many new and incredibly important life management tools.  The reach and value of the internet  continues to be 'lashed to the deck' by relatively few, by influential corporate hardware developers such as Steve Jobs.  While claiming to have performance and support as a concern, they are actually focused on marketshare and profit from their own Flash substitutes that they hope will be adopted in the place of Flash.   They should instead rush to produce OS that will sync with signficant techologies that impact a vast majority of users .  In fact, Palm and Android are doing just that. and claim to be releasing their versions of Flash for smartphones later this year, possibly now on the HTC devices, though I haven't been able to test one for our health care education products thus far.  Flash 10.1 also creates hope of an iPhone workaround.   

 

Corporate leaders need to take a longer look at the overall value in adoption and time-to-market versus bottom line.  They need to take a longer look at the effect that their business decisions have upon the general welfare of the user public.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

by pdboddy on ‎03-09-2010 08:52 AM

What's the name of the song, and the band who made it, in that video?

by Leafworth on ‎03-11-2010 02:47 AM

@ GetRealGetFlash(anon)

 

I didn't miss the point. I was employing a great deal of sarcasm relative to HP's decision to go so far as to showcase their Tablet's Flash capabilities with an Adobe mouthpiece as the foci. I don't watch TV with any regularity, and if I did, I'd want larger than a 10" screen for the purpose. Nor do I  use a device to manage my health, wellness, or education. I do use devices to manage my life, and none of the software I use for that purpose, requires Flash. I do use Adobe's Flash CS4 for my own purposes. As a format, I have few complaints. I have nothing against a device that offers the viewing of this format unrestricted. I welcome it if anything.

 

However...

 

Being upset that Apple has chosen to release a device that does not support Flash when there will be plenty (almost 50 this year) of other tablet options, seems... odd. When I think about the relatively small market share the iPad will likely acquire, I fail to see why so many people are threatened, angered, and troubled by its existence. Also, when I see people miffed at Steve Jobs because he won't do something THEY want with HIS company or devices... its like watching a bunch of near-sighted developers making demands on Howard Roark. Steve is as likely to compromise as Howard, therefore, any anger expended towards him is an utter waste of energy. 

 

In a mobile device, I want a true multi-touch interface that is not based on a cursor hovering over something to make it work. I don't want same old OS limitations adding minutes to every hour of my workflow on a day I'm too busy to stay at desk. I want a device to just do what I want, finger pressed to the screen, moving content down the page one side and up the other. Whether it displays Flash or not is irrelevant, I just need the text... the raw information to proceed. As someone looking for a device that will allow me to proceed with my work away from my desk, everyone seems to be making a device made for play.

 

There's lots of 2010 left though, and plenty more marvelous devices to consider. I'm excited regardless. 

by simoncarter on ‎03-11-2010 08:30 AM

Can anyone comment whether the HP Slate will include integrated 3G?

I cannot find an official specification for the HP Slate and the internet commentary is a little ambiguous. I would hope that 3G is included to offer a true connected portable device experience. Without it and you are left with the less than desirable options to either plug-in an unattractive external USB 3G dongle (easily misplaced or 'borrowed'), or to roam between available Wi-Fi hotspots which is often less than convenient and costly. So if its not already in the spec, please HP, include integrated 3G.

by SnoRydrBoy on ‎03-13-2010 09:53 AM

This Slate looks great. When does it come out? I was going to buy an iPad until I saw this today. What kind of accessories will be available for the Slate? Will it have a camera unlike the iPad? I really like that it is Windows 7 OS and I saw that you can use FireFox with it, that is a plus because I really don't like IE 8. If it will have a model with built-in 3G+4G for Sprint that would also be a plus and I think more people would look at the Slate with binoculars on. I know that the iPad doesn't have any USB ports and if the Slate will have at least one USB port that would be a bonus as well.

by rsimple on ‎03-27-2010 11:04 AM

@  From what I've been hearing, the slate is due out in June and HP will reveal everything before the iPad's first day of sales ...which is April 2 or 3 I think.

by Samson on ‎03-31-2010 02:40 PM

This product looks great, but I was wondering about the choice of CPU. My past experience with portable devices is that it's hard for me to be productive without plugging into an outlet (some of us work faster than others. lol). So, why did HP elect to use the Intel Atom instead of the newer Core i3, i5, or even i7, since they are made to help extend battery life?

 

Also, will I have the option to switch out the processor after purchasing the slate, or amy I pretty much stuck with the Atom?

by rsimple on ‎03-31-2010 07:59 PM

@Samson The Atom line is made for low power devices... this will give the slate the most battery life it could possibly have vs the typical laptop and desktop processors. Also, the Atom line does not get as hot as the other processors...which will be a very good thing considering we will have our hands wrapped around this thing while it's being used... Ever felt the bottom of your laptop with the palm of your hand after long periods of use?

by agkwwpan on ‎04-05-2010 11:06 AM

Slate looks to be a great product!  But I'm still waiting to see a "full width" touch keyboard - not the standard Microsoft Windows 7 pop-up keyboard on the tablets, as those keys are too small to type on quickly with fingers. I think a large, easy to use keyboard is a critical feature for a device that is intended to be operated primarily without external HMI devices.

by Steven Dowling Jr on ‎04-05-2010 12:49 PM

This thing looks great... Flash, Java, cameras and Win 7? Sign me up.

by lajos on ‎04-05-2010 12:52 PM

The HP slate must have:

 

 - stylus (so it's a real tool for real creative people)

 - carrying case (even if it's a dinky leather thingie, so people can carry it around)

 - usb port

 - camera

 - maybe multimedia card reader

 

It already has an operating system that allows choice of software. Flash is a must for the internet, even though I'm no fan of flash. The only reason the iPad doesn't have flash is because then people would be able to listen to pandora and play flash games, the claim that Flash crashes a lot is complete BeeEss. Iphone apps crash. Not Flash.

 

And here is what the slate MUST MUST have:

 

 - release date. soon.

 - marketing. lots of it.

 

by craig kaplan on ‎04-05-2010 10:20 PM

It's funny; from some previous posts... because of HP I am now forever a true Apple consumer.  I also had a HP tablet TX2000 PC that after exactly one year quit working!  Wifi died, overheating, etc, etc... HP was not interested in doing anything to help and after further investigation I found that these same issues were happening to many other people with the same tablet.

I purchased a Macbook and it is amazing how great a computer can be with good hardware and software!  Bye Bye to HP and Msft!

by Miguel Gallegos on ‎04-06-2010 07:52 AM

The iPAD in essence is a "new idea in innovation". This is separate than the iPAD as a product. As products evolve the last iteration rarely looks like the first (test with any hardware/software product of substance over the last 20 years). As a result, the "idea" of an easily mobile hardware package with increased viewing efficiency will be sure to win the hearts and minds of a lot of people both in commercial and non-commercial markets. NOW: the question is" "Who will win the iteration race over time?" ... I know this: Apple will most likely win the kid race for sure ... and someone will win the economically focused business race (adoption costs over an enterprise do not support high front end cost for brand if similar functionalities are available) ... let the games begin!!! 

by randygrenier on ‎04-06-2010 01:57 PM

Again and again, there are technologies that do more for less than stuff from Apple, but they have loyal buyers.  Also, Apple buyers have a lot invested in Apple, so they have to continue to pay more for less.

by Matt Shine on ‎04-06-2010 03:20 PM

It now looks like Apple rushed the IPad out just to grab hold of the market before HP, hence the reason there are more bad user reviews than good at the moment.

I'll be patiently waiting for the Slate to be released.

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