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HP Envy 14 and 17: Big Changes for Less

by GizmoGladstone on 05-06-2010 01:48 PM - last edited on 08-12-2010 02:56 PM by ShayFan

Think of HP's Envy notebook line like a Formula1 car   – they serve as test beds for new technologies. And the latest racers out the gate are the new 14 and 17 Envy laptops. 


 

Let's get the real quick speeds and feeds out of the way, before going any further.


HP Envy 14. 14.5-inch screen, 5.25 pounds, Intel Core i3, i5, i7 CPUs, ATI Mobility Radeon 5650 GPU with 1GB GDDR3 RAM and BEATS audio.

HP Envy 17
. 17.3-inch screen, 7.25 pounds, VGA, HDMI & Mini DisplayPort video outs, Intel Core i3, i5, i7 CPUs, ATI Mobility Radeon 5850 GPU with 1GB GDDR5 RAM and BEATS audio.

Stacy Wolff, Director of Notebook Product Design and Notebook Global Business Unity for HP's Personal Systems Group, spent a few minutes telling me about what his team learned from developing the Envy 13 and 15 and some of the features going into the new machines

According to Stacy, "The Envy is meant to deliver a premium experience. It should feel like you're holding something substantial in your hands." Stacy says that they are also listening to what people have to say. HP reads tech reviews like anyone else, they pay close attention to what customers are saying and they look on the store shelves. With the Envy laptop line, Stacy goes on to say that... 
 
People loved the materials
. The metal, machined cases stood out and made the last line of Envy line eye-catching.

People want an optical drive in Envys
. Personally, I'm weaning myself off optical media, but feedback says that people wanted an integrated optical drive (which the Envy 13 lacked). Don't worry, these new laptops both add slot-loading drives while maintaining a slim profile. (1.09-inches thick on the Envy 14).

People want backlit keys in a premium machine
. Whether you're typing in a dimly lit cafe or on a late-night flight, being able to see the keys is, well, key. That feature is on-board with the new Envy machines.

People grooved to the BEATS audio
. The sound system really made a difference and now the Envy 17 comes with a subwoofer.
 
People don't want to spend small fortunes
. Sure, I enjoy rolling up hundred dollar bills and lighting them on fire as much as the next guy, but for the most part, I'd prefer to save a couple bucks. The nicest surprise with these Envy machines is that they have reasonable prices -- the Envy 14 starts at $999 while the more powerful big brother, the Envy 17, starts at $1399.

Hang on a sec. While you're digesting the prices, consider that the Envy 17 is capable three-screen gaming...I mean applications!  Yeah, I know, the Envy 17 can be a beastly machine and can handle all sorts of multimedia chores or whatever else you can throw at it. But playing a game like this. On a laptop. Oh, just click the “play” button, already -- it's sick.



More efficient port layout. If you put all jacks and ports in the same area, it may look good aesthetically, but it could block other ports. All it takes is one oversized USB dongle and you're covering the neighboring inputs. The new Envy laptops divide the ports on the left and right sides more evenly.

An Improved ClickPad. With the new notebooks, there is a more clearly defined button zone and an active touch zone that also supports gestures. (Thank you!)

 
Keeping it cool. The dimensions of the notebooks increase slightly -- 1.5mm, to be precise. That buys the Envy better insulation, heat shields and venting. The perforations in the bottom allow for the better airflow control. And the Battery slice for the Envy 14 has little grooves to dissipate heat. Something that you've got to keep in mind, you try pushing a high-end CPU, it's bound to give off some heat.

 

You can see the redesign results in this short video I took during HP's demo day in San Francisco.




Remember how I said at the top of the story that some of the Envy's innovations will find their way into the HP Pavilion laptop line? Stay tuned. In a few, I'll tell you more about what is happening next for the mainstream machines.

As always, we want to hear what you're thinking – and I'll try to comment where I can. So, feel free to chime in on the forums, follow us on the Twitter, face us in the Facebook or catch some of the latest videos that HP posts on YouTube!

Comments
by JamesChristie(anon) on 05-25-2010 06:44 PM

so the hp envy 17 has been released. no review yet (that i know of). now all we have to wait for is the hp 14 (june 27). is there any confirmation on any of the questions that have been brought out in this discussion (usb 3.0. 5-1 media card, heating, e2e, etc). please hp, we are looking for answers.

by GizmoGladstone on 05-27-2010 07:34 AM

Hey all, I wanted to try and get back to you on a couple of the lingering questions out there -- at least the ones that I can at the moment.

 

First, for those still asking about the Envy 15, there is no news. What I answered a while back, still stands. When I spoke with Barry at the HP offices, he told me that there were no announcements at the time regarding feature upgrades, but that the 15 is still available. Take that for what it is.

 

Now some other folks have been asking about the battery life. Since I haven't played with the machines myself and speak from personal experience, I can only base this off of the company line at the moment 7 hours standard battery usage, 14 hours with the extra slice, if I hear correctly. Of course, these results are with MobileMark, not real world, real use conditions. In short, your results may/will vary.

 

As for the patterns on the Envy cases. Here's the funny part: I didn't notice it was floral at first. But I guess I was too busy staring into the screen. I haven't heard of any other variants on the lid. If I hear otherwise, I'll keep you posted.

by Jay(anon) on 05-28-2010 04:09 AM

Hey GizmoGladstone

 

Thanks for the information. I just wanted to ask if you could find out and clear up some information thats going around which is putting people off of the Envy 14. A PDF data sheet was release sometime within the past 24 hours and its information is clashing with whats been state on the older product definition PDF and from what Barry Ferris has been saying on the demonstration videos.

 

I have recently sent HP a message about the issues to see if they would get edited or confirmed. I previously sent HP an email about the information on their Envy website saying that the information stated was incorrect and that in the Envy gallery for some reason there was a picture of the Envy 17 hidden amongst the Envy 14's gallery. 24 hours after sending the email they had changed the information and picture in the gallery. I am wondering if these are mistakes being made by the people that deal with putting the information of the PDF's and website or if there are mistakes coming from the Envy team (which I cant think that being the case. It would be bad marketing). here is a copy of the message i sent HP, hopefully if you have time could you please find out whats going on? 

 

Message:

 

"Hi there

 

Recently you have put up the Envy 14 PDF data sheet that has some information that clashes with previously promised specifications and this has put many off the product who were looking forward to its release.

 

firstly the data sheet mentions an 1366x768 resolution screen when previous the product definition PDF stated an 1600x900 screen as well as Lead Design Barry Ferris stating on his demo videos the base unit will come with the 1600x900. Is this a mistake or was it false information and the better screen comes at a price?

 

the next thing the data sheet says is and i quote "Get up to 8 hours and 15 minutes of computing time with an HP ENVY

SlimFit Extended-Life battery." it was said in all demonstration videos that the Envy 14 has 7 hours battery life without the slice (with the i5 configuration due to switchable graphics) and with the slice up to 14 hours. this is a big difference again, is this true or false compared to what we have been told previously. 8.15 hours?? 7hours without slice?? 14 hours with slice?? it does say on the ENvy web page under discover the Envy 14 that with the slice you get 14 hours, the information seems to be clashing.

 

the data sheet also specifies one 3.5mm jak when the product clear has two; one being a dedicated Beats audio jack and the other a combo headphone mic jack. 

 

The last thing people are pointing out is the massive 3738MB total graphics memory is this a mistake or true? I ask this due to the HP Germany website Envy 14 specifying up to 2714 MB total graphics memory.

 

Thank you for your time. I feel that this message should be taken seriously as there are a lot of people wanting this product and things that have been said have now changed (or maybe not) and it is making them look else where. The Envy 14 has the potential for all of us waiting especially from the words of Mr Barry Ferris about the base units configuration being a Core i5, 4GB RAM, ATI 5650, 7 hours battery without slice on switchable graphics, 1600x900 display all for $999 and £999.

 

Thanks again."

 

Thanks for your time.

by Mike(anon) on 05-31-2010 08:05 AM

Nice job with the illuminated keyboard HP.

Why are they not standard on all models? It is such a helpful and practical feature.

That is a huge selling point for me when selecting a laptop.

Keep up the good work. 

by Nat Julian Belza(anon) on 06-02-2010 01:58 AM

Between envy 13 and 15, my clear choice was 15. But now with envy 14 and 17.. I got myself struggling what to get and what's the best for my money. I want them both.. But I can only choose one.


As I dig deeper between these two, I found that both has shortcomings.. for my taste. And right now, envy 14 is currently what I am thinking of getting...


Although at first I don't like big laptops. I find it somewhat weird to bring a 17" laptop outside, and I imagine getting strange reactions from people. But now, my views have changed and I'm starting to think about getting an envy 17.. It just gotten into me and realized that big laptops gives a "hardcore professional" vibe, and ups the status who ever owns it. Not just that. It's powerful over 14. Now as I dig envy 17, I found a letdown that gives me a really strong sour taste. What I like a lot about the envy 15, 14 and 13 is the straight and flat chassis/body when viewed from the side. I don't like the way envy 17 is tilted.. I don't like its bloated part - the thick / fat butt. It somewhat breaks the design principle behind envy. Plus it lacks radiance LED.. If those issues are gone, I'll get envy 17 over 14 anyday.

What I don't like about envy 14 is the lack of full HD screen resolution and that's it, the rest are just what I like, but for now I'm more leaned to 14.

About the floral stuff. I agree that it looks "girly", but I got a chance to see and test an envy 15 in personal. And guess what, the feeling it gives when you see it in screen disappears when you see it in personal. It looks awesome and cool and daring. Believe me, I almost bought envy 15 that day.. Of course not because of the floral thing. :-)

 

Regards,

 

- Nat

by Nat Julian Belza(anon) on 06-02-2010 03:21 AM

And I would like to add -

 

Envy 14 and envy 15 gives a "Muscle Car" feeling. Don't you agree?

by Jacky(anon) on 06-04-2010 06:50 AM

Hi everyone!

 

I am a huge fan of the Envy series!! Ever since 13 and 15 came out, I've always dreamed to have one of those.

 

In 2 weeks I will be graduating from high school. As my parents have promised me in advance, they will share half the cost of my new notebook.

 

Now the Envy 14 will be out soon, which beats 13 in almost every single way. I am dying to have one of them as soon as possible!!

 

My question is, does anyone know when exactly will the Envy 14 be available in Europe (since I am living in Austria)? And if I choose to purchase it online from HP US on 27th June, how long will the shipment take, and how much will that cost?

 

Any help is highly appreciated!

 

Regards,

 

Jacky

by HardBall(anon) on 06-04-2010 06:52 AM

@ Kornheiser

 

Please stop the senseless ranting about those apple features.  You may want them, not everyone will be in the same boat as you in terms of laptop feature needs.

 

I currently own an Envy 15, and am very happy with the features and performance so far, simply the best in the industry given the size, weight, and capabilities.  The only complaint is battery life, which is much less than desirable, about 1/2 of what I would like on a 15" machine.

 

There are people who could really benefit from 5 in 1 reader, so I think it's wise for HP to have that on at least one model (not just SD reader, which is nice in itself), probably the 17, and hopefully another model as well.  The backlit definitely would have been a nice extra, but hardly necessary for most people.  And the E2E is simply an annoying feature that would be a detriment to a lot of people; I would much rather keep the anti-glare option than moving to E2E all glass; the glossy screen is bad enough in sun-light, and E2E just compounds the problem for people who would use Envy 14 on the move; I think an anti-glare option is a must for the smaller machine.

 

@ JamieChristie

I'm actually very glad that they got rid of the optical drive for the 15, I've literally never used even an external drive for the Envy 15 since I got the machine.  A lot of users nowadays no longer have any optical based media, and don't really install programs the old way any more.  Better give more ways for connectivity (3G/Wimax/LTE/etc) than to waste time and effort on a standard that is gradually going away.

by friday(anon) on 06-06-2010 04:28 PM

When will the envy 14 came out ?

by LaceHer(anon) on 06-07-2010 03:13 AM

Envy 14 apparently comes out 27th June.

 

@ GizmoGladstone

 

Is it just my eyes or do the Envy 14 and 17 have black plastic bases whereas the older Envy 15 base is alluminium, consistent with the chasis. It would really be a bummer if this is true of the newer additions, cos id like to race out and buy the old Envy 15 for the consistent look which draws it out from the rest of the hp pavilliion crew.

 

please keep us posted on Envy 15 updates!

 

 

by Aaron1uk(anon) on 06-12-2010 12:28 PM

I love the specs, I love the form and I love the price. I seriously hate dimples, and the floral dimples. If it were just smooth it would possible the most perfect product I have ever wanted.

 

by Jonte(anon) on 06-12-2010 01:17 PM

Hello.

I'm about to study game programing this fall and the Envy 14 fits me perfect.

The only problem is that I live in Europe (Sweden) so my question is when it will be available

in Europe, and if so, when?

 

Best regards

by envious(anon) on 06-14-2010 12:16 AM

Is there any chance that the envy 14 will have the option to upgrade to a full HD display like the envy 15?

by fred(anon) on 06-15-2010 11:26 AM

I really want a new design for the envy 14! It would be a perfect latop for me except fot eh floral dimples. I totally agree with Aaron1uk. It needs a new design, maybe we can order an envy 14 with a new design on the website?

by GizmoGladstone on 06-16-2010 09:57 AM

Hello Jonte, thanks for your interest!  The Envy 14 will be available in Europe at the end of June with a starting price of €999, and the Envy 17 is available with a starting price of €1299. 

by Bronson(anon) on 06-18-2010 02:42 PM

Hi, I am planning on getting this laptop as soon as it is sold in my country. Is there a release date for Canada yet? Will this laptop have a 1080 screen res option? Is there other laser etched designs besides the floral? Is there an upgrade option for the graphics? Otherwise, a very good laptop, at a very generous price. Thanks!

by Alex Gomes(anon) on 06-25-2010 08:48 PM

Hi there, could anyone plzzz tell me when Hp envy 17 is coming to Canada.....

by MixMint(anon) on 06-26-2010 08:27 AM

Hi Alex Gomes(anon), I heard the HP Envy 14 and 17 will be released 26th (tomorrow) or 27th June in the USA.
In other countries it will come some weeks or months later. But since Canada is straight North above USA
it will be there in some weeks probably.

by Jay(anon) on 06-26-2010 10:07 AM

The Envy 17 has already been released in the US, and is being pre-ordered around other countries. The Envy 14's release date from HP states tomorrow (27th) as its release date in the US; currently Germany are taking pre-orders but not many other places. Canada should be to far from the US launch.

by Bronson(anon) on 06-26-2010 06:52 PM

Hi, I noticed the HP Canada website doesn't have the HP Envy 17 yet. But the futureshop website is taking orders. Also, the Envy 17 is in the futureshop flyer in Canada. So I am guessing the Envy 14 won't take too long to be released too. 

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